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WARP vs KIN interview - autumn 2003

Warp harnessed the extraordinary power of electronic message communication to catch up with NICK KILROY, the brains behind the brand new label - KIN.

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WARP: Who set up KIN?

I did, after an inspirational night at the cinema and a night of phone conversations. I'd been flirting with the idea for months/years.

An ex-art student, I've been on the margins of the media industry for the past few years, coming to London with a film I music supervised, only to realise it takes years for a features to be made, so it'd be years before I saw the effect of my work. That wasn't immediate enough and brought me to the internet where everything happens in the time it takes to press the 'SEND' button.

WARP: What was your motivation?

I'm motivated by the wish to share the music I love, pure and simple. That and the wish to build something myself.

I'm interested in links and connections, juxtapositions. Initially I wanted to create something that would pool my interests (art/film/music/technology) and take advantage of the changes in the music industry - new formats, new genres, new media, new methods of promotion and distribution. release compilations of track that worked together, irrespective of genre and period. But when I first heard the Junior Boys I thought.... "just a minute, these guys are better than the records they want to sound like" and everything fell into place.

Other motivations? Kylie, The KLF, Kompakt - elements that had a hand in KIN's conception, imagine KIN's the link between them.

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WARP: What makes a really good tune really good?

I could list a hundred things that 'make' a track for me, but they're relative. What works one one track is useless elsewhere.

Pushed, I'd say it comes down to contrast, friction, character, that's very vague and unhelpful, but there's always one of these elements at play, irrespective of genre. And very few bands can bring them all together without making a mess, an example of those who've been successful would be... The Pixies. That said, I'm a fool for vocoders, cowbells, handclaps and euro-pop vocals.

WARP: What kind of music do you most enjoy and what influences the label generally?

Ok, well I don't listen to much jazz, classical or country any more, but that's about as much as it can be narrowed down. Unsurprisingly there's good deal of warp/rephlex back catalogue on my stereo but very few labels that have grown out of that scene. What I listen to depends where i am, I have Radio 1 default in the car at night and my jiggy Hip-Hop compilations in heavy traffic, house and techno on the motorway, electro stuff in clubs, and a random shuffle of tracks at all times at home.

Influences come from everywhere, it'd be hard to pin down a single source, musically I'd say it was tracks and styles that people have dismissed or forgotten. But really everything influences the label: half hearing a track through a wall, buying the wrong record but loving it anyway, bad reception and the randomness of the radio, cd glitches and the click at the end of vinyl, getting a tape with a track I've never liked stuck in the stereo....... happy accidents.

WARP: What plans do you have for the next year or so?

There are some videos in production and a new Junior Boys EP slated for early 2004, then an album in the spring, which I'll bring them over for. They perform live, as a band, with instruments and everything! There are other acts on KIN, but I'm keeping quiet until they're ready.

WARP: Who are the Junior Boys? little bio info.

They're a cutting-edge A.I. program developed by the heavyweight filesharing companies. Nah, I only say that cause they're the product of the internet, that's where I met them and that's where you're hearing about them. A couple of guys from Canada who were ready to give up on the whole music industry thing when I found them. They're as smart and funny as they are talented, it's a pleasure to work with them.

WARP: How did the fennesz remix come together?

It was about getting the EP just right, giving people the right reference points, I wanted people to engage with the Junior Boys with the same degree attention they would a Fennesz record. The first EP could have so easily dismissed as retro-pop tat but I wanted to people to really listen: to the production, hear the quality of the track, this way it's not taken so lightly.

met Christian at a Warp night a while ago, we kept in touch, then when the JBeez turned up there was only one choice of who to have remix; knowing his love of Beach Boys, I thought their reformat of classic 80s pop might stir an interest. Once he'd heard the tracks neither of us was in any doubt, he loved what he heard, believed he could bring his own sound to it and delivered something pretty special.

WARP: What are some of favourite labels and releases of the last 12 months and some stuff to look out for this year?

I'm not all that attached to labels, but there's been a stream of quality music coming out of Germany over the last few years, particualrly Kompakt and the labels they distribute. Kompakt's mixes seem to pull in their best releases, but there's so much out there to listen to. DFA don't release enough material, Lex goes from strength to strength, and the US Hip-Pop scene continues to throw out amazing new producers and artists but that's nothing new. Specific sources : the mighty John Peel, DJ Twitch who knows his stuff, and both Rory and Erol from Trash can be relied on for playing the kind of things I'm listening to.

- Isnasakenai Douji - Sticklebrick
- Catnip - Romance is the Panther
- M.Mayer - Speaker
- Kanye West - Thru the Wire
- Outkast - Hey Ya
- Charles Manier - Change You
- Wiley Kat - Blizzard/Shanghai
- Luomo - Present Lover (the track)
- Juan MacLean - Give Me Every Little Thing
- Dizzee Rascal - I Love You (Sharkie Major remix)
- Mark Ronson - Ooh Wee
- Hymie's Basement - the one near the end..
- Magnet - Rising Son
- LCD Soundsystem - Tribulations
- The Clappas riddim [Warpmart note: as found on Ward 21's latest album , in Warpmart]
- The Associates - Party Fears Two (deserves to be on any list I write at the moment)










jbz 2002


Hyperdub

This interview, performed by Inspector Gadget, took place in 2002.

IG: Who are the Junior Boys?

The JBs: There are two of us. Jeremy Greenspan and Johnny Dark. We formed somewhere around 1999, in Hamilton, Canada.

IG: In many of your press photos, you wear shirts and ties. Have you ever felt the true alienation of office labour, received 'paper cuts', 'photocopier eyes', or 'elastic band sting' or is your style a post ironic comment of the future of work?

The JBs: Jeremy did a stint at a Costco as a demonstration presenter for various meat products....big up the Burlington Costco. Johnny's done some office time, seen papercuts + photocopiers etc. We have tasted the nightmare.

IG: Your sound has been described as Gary Numan meets R&B producer Timbaland? How do you feel about this description?

The JBs: So there has been some mention of us being like a cross between synthpop/core (or whatever) and R&B...much to our detriment we should note, because we have received letters from electro-clash labels telling us that we were "too R&B" and some garage types have said that we were "too 80s electro". The thing is we never intended to exactly fit in between two genres. We just happened to be sitting around when we formed listening to dem 2 tracks like "baby (your so sexy)" and saying yo this is the future of music, and then in the next second listen to Sylvian/Sakamoto doing "Bamboo Houses" and say woah this is the future of music. We actually never really saw any conflict. We figure Timbaland is sampling Knight Rider and telling people how into Trent Reznor he is, so we figure anything goes.

IG: Which current producers are influencing your style?

The JBs: There's definately the R&B types like Timbaland, Neptunes, Jerkins and Dre. they are all a massive influence on what we do, and have been for a long time. And that's coupled with Garage producers like Dem 2 (not sure where they are now), Horsepower and Zed Bias. But there's also the more synthy side of things exemplified by Maurizio (and other Basic Channel types) and the old skool faves like John Foxx, Visage, SPK, Gristle and Japan. All sorts of things mashed together. Right at this moment Jeremy is most likely listening to Level 42 and Johnny is most likely listening to E.L.P...you can pick which is worse.

IG: How does your sound relate to 'synthcore' or 'electroclash'?

The JBs: I guess they are also excited by some of the same things we are. There's definately places where what we are doing overlaps although I'm not sure if we fit into either of those groups exactly.

IG: Why is your retro-synth sound relevant now?

The JBs: Making music that is explicately retro or nostalgic isn’t all that exciting, it’s certainly not what we’re about, but what I think we do take from that particular moment in musical history is the idea, or the sense that you could produce really exciting fresh pop music that is unapologetically synthetic.